Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Some Scriptures to Consider

In my studies today, I realized (probably not for the first time) that in the scriptural days, when the prophets were cast out, they were basically excommunicated. Something to think about.

20 And when the Jews heard these things they were angry with him; yea, even as with the prophets of old, whom they had cast out (excommunicated), and stoned, and slain; and they also sought his life, that they might take it away. But behold, I, Nephi, will show unto you that the tender mercies of the Lord are over all those whom he hath chosen, because of their faith, to make them mighty even unto the power of deliverance.
(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 1:20)

3 And after the Messiah shall come there shall be signs given unto my people of his birth, and also of his death and resurrection; and great and terrible shall that day be unto the wicked, for they shall perish; and they perish because they cast out (excommunicate) the prophets, and the saints, and stone them, and slay them; wherefore the cry of the blood of the saints shall ascend up to God from the ground against them.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 26:3)

24 Yea, wo unto this people, because of this time which has arrived, that ye do cast out the prophets, and do mock them, and cast stones at them, and do slay them, and do all manner of iniquity unto them, even as they did of old time.

25  And now when ye talk, ye say: If our days had been in the days of our fathers of old, we would not have slain the prophets; we would not have stoned them, and cast them out (excommunicated).

26 Behold ye are worse than they; for as the Lord liveth, if a prophet come among you and declareth unto you the word of the Lord, which testifieth of your sins and iniquities, ye are angry with him, and cast him out and seek all manner of ways to destroy him; yea, you will say that he is a false prophet, and that he is a sinner, and of the devil, because he testifieth that your deeds are evil.
(Book of Mormon | Helaman 13:24-26)

33 O that I had repented, and had not killed the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out (excommunicated). Yea, in that day ye shall say: O that we had remembered the Lord our God in the day that he gave us our riches, and then they would not have become slippery that we should lose them; for behold, our riches are gone from us.
(Book of Mormon | Helaman 13:33)

14 And it came to pass in the thirty and first year that they were divided into tribes, every man according to his family, kindred and friends; nevertheless they had come to an agreement that they would not go to war one with another; but they were not united as to their laws, and their manner of government, for they were established according to the minds of those who were their chiefs and their leaders. But they did establish very strict laws that one tribe should not trespass against another, insomuch that in some degree they had peace in the land; nevertheless, their hearts were turned from the Lord their God, and they did stone the prophets and did cast them out (excommunicated) from among them.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 7:14)

25 And in another place they were heard to cry and mourn, saying: O that we had repented before this great and terrible day, and had not killed and stoned the prophets, and cast them out (excommunicated); then would our mothers and our fair daughters, and our children have been spared, and not have been buried up in that great city Moronihah. And thus were the howlings of the people great and terrible.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 8:25)

11 And because they did cast them all out (excommunicated), that there were none righteous among them, I did send down fire and destroy them, that their wickedness and abominations might be hid from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints whom I sent among them might not cry unto me from the ground against them.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 9:11)

25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out (excommunicated) from the beginning.
(Book of Mormon | Ether 8:25)

29 But the people believed not the words of the prophets, but they cast them out (excommunicated); and some of them they cast into pits and left them to perish. And it came to pass that they did all these things according to the commandment of the king, Heth.
(Book of Mormon | Ether 9:29)


  1. I really hope Denver Snuffer does not get excommunicated or even disfellowshipped.

    1. Ditto.

      In any case he is in God's hands. He'll be alright no matter what happens.

      I am more concerned with those who have made themselves into his enemies, those who do and will fight against his message.

      As he warned:
      "If you decide to pressure local authorities to cast me off, there is another law decreed before the foundation of the world you will perhaps inadvertently invoke against yourself. This is not the intersection you want to be in, and I mean that in all seriousness and with all my heart; for your sake, not for mine."

      I am worried about those who fight against God's messengers and the messages they bring. These fearful, proud, angry people need our heartfelt, sincere prayers. They need to be able to escape the wrath that is to come. That can't happen if they fight against messages God sends via messengers who crop up in unexpected places.

    2. I forgot to credit the source of the quote. It's from this link: