Tony wrote:
The
problem is that you, Obrien, and so many others apparently think you
can now flout the law that has gone forth from Zion. Both the Bible and
the Book of Mormon speak extensively about the law going forth from
Zion.
A Random Phrase wrote:
No law has come forth from Zion, because there is no Zion on the earth.
Tony wrote:
There are plenty of scriptures that contradict your view. Here are a few of them. [Several scriptures followed.]
A Random Phrase wrote:
The
honest-to-God Zion is nowhere to be found. The fake Zion is everywhere.
You know, the one Nephi addressed when he said, wo unto them who are at
ease in Zion, who say Zion prospereth? That chapter pretty much damns
us to destruction and to hell.
But the real Zion, the bona fide
Zion, the one that can accept the Lord's presence without people frying
and dying ... that one does not exist. There are poor among us. None of
us are of one heart and one mind. None of us are truly and honestly the
pure in heart. Virtually no one in this fake (or practice) Zion has seen
the Lord, let alone everyone. Nowhere is it taught in this faux Zion
that no one needs to be taught by any other person because everyone
there knows the Lord and HE teaches them.
We accuse those who
wear sleeveless shirts, who smoke, who drink, who have tattoos or more
than the allotted number of earrings, who are not clean shaven, who do
not wear white shirts, who do not bow to the scepter and kiss the golden
ring. We have more hedges about our laws than the pharisees and
sadducees in Jesus' day.
We have homeless people. We have
beggars. We have people starving. We have people who are sick and
suffering and there is no man or woman going around healing them. We use
weapons, police forces, and governments to defend ourselves. Nature
refuses to help us. We have those who fare sumptuously. We have those
who sit in chief seats and gobble up the accolades, honor, and idolatry
of the masses.
We steal from each other. We cheat each other. We
dig a pit for each other in the hopes that the other will fall into it.
We lust after each other. We lust for power and wealth. We freak out at
the idea of giving so much away that the poor are comfortable and the
rich are demoted to comfort from luxury. We judge and condemn the poor,
the beggar, the different, those who are less than perfect in our eyes.
We
fight. We argue. We get angry at each other. We want revenge. We want
to force our views on others. We are jealous and envious. If anyone
believes differently than us, we kick them out of our associations. We
consider people apostate and headed for hell if they don't give
deference to those people we think require deference. In Zion, deference
is given only to God.
If Zion, the real one, suddenly appeared in our midst I suspect we would all die of culture shock.
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